Kaveh Madani · 2026 · 1:31:20

Summary

Madani asks one question: if water trouble has lasted fifty years and keeps getting worse, is “crisis” still the right word?

His answer is no. A crisis is a temporary episode, and its logic is “mitigate, then return to normal”. In many places there is no normal to return to. He proposes water bankruptcy: a state with two parts.

  1. Insolvency. Spending exceeds both the yearly “income” (rivers, soil moisture, snow) and the “savings” (aquifers, glaciers, wetlands).
  2. Irreversibility. Some of the damage cannot be undone at any realistic cost or in any realistic time.

Insolvency alone is not bankruptcy. It is the pairing that makes the “temporary abnormal” into a “new normal”. He calls the resulting condition post-crisis: you still mitigate, but you must also adapt and stop the next irreversible loss.

He then argues four things around that core:

  • Water is a product of a machinery (climate, biodiversity, soils, ice). Water managers have focused on delivering the product and neglected the machine. So water is “downstream” in policy, and he wants it to be upstream.
  • The usual fix (add supply) backfires. More wells, dams, transfers, desalination, recycling: each adds supply, demand follows. It is “a classic fix that backfires”.
  • Exposure is unequal. Rich, diversified economies (California, Israel) can be bankrupt in water and still grow. Poor economies that depend on farm jobs cannot, and drought becomes a national-security crisis. The only exit is economic diversification, and the poor countries need finance and technology for it.
  • Water can be a political common denominator in a fragmented world: it appeals to left and right, north and south, and it ties into peace, health, food, energy, climate and biodiversity.

Q&A pushes on individual behaviour (necessary signal, insufficient lever), the Jevons paradox (known for decades; the barrier is political economy), valuing water (the private sector sees the risk; the geopolitical value is not understood), and diplomacy (be realistic; narratives matter; nothing transfers whole; each society must set its own thresholds).

Stance to note. He is a systems and game-theory modeller turned diplomat. He insists the concept is a diagnosis, not a metaphor. He also says: do not label any particular nation or aquifer bankrupt from outside; “societies must define these boundaries”. And he is blunt that prescriptions that ignore political economy (he names integrated water resources management in some cases) are “very theoretical”.

Map — talking points

#Point
1Housekeeping: Brace Centre numbers, grants, new chairs
2Gaskin: Brace history (1959 bequest → salinity → desalination → governance → IWRM masters 2009), theme “Beyond crisis”
3Introduction of Madani (UNU-INWEH, Stockholm Water Prize)
4UNU-INWEH at 30; the January report and the paper that defined the concept; “not a metaphor”
5The symptoms: shrinking rivers and wetlands, empty reservoirs, falling groundwater, glaciers, soil salinity, conflict; “nature is speaking to us”
6Droughts becoming anthropogenic; SDG6 off track; Turkey sinkholes
7The claim: the planet has entered the era of global water bankruptcy; “not every basin”; water as hidden stabiliser of the economy; Tehran vs Britain
8Checking and savings accounts; insolvency vs bankruptcy; irreversibility; Tehran’s 14 million
9Water and the rest of natural capital: water as the downstream sector; product vs machinery; feedbacks
10Demand keeps rising (food, energy, data centres, chips, minerals); “stealing from nature”
11Bankruptcy is not about how much water you have; quality as a toxic asset; global examples
12Why negotiation is hard: symptoms differ, farmers hold 70% of water and have no place in the global agenda; two dark options for governments
13A personal journey: why “crisis” stopped making sense (2014 paper, 2016 film)
14The supply spiral and the fix that backfires; the energy parallel
15The bankrupt entity that asks for another credit card; moving baselines; adapt; “nostalgic management”
16Why bankruptcy is hopeful: admit it, act, prevent more irreversible loss; planet not “out of water”
17COVID analogy; unequal impact; California vs Pakistan; why the north should care
18Why water is not on the global agenda; the global south has warned; dust storms moving north
19Water as common denominator (left/right, north/south); water as an upstream sector with high co-benefits
20What to do: diversify economies, Israel lesson, finance for the south; reallocation, equity; data centre vs cucumber farm
21Co-benefits, the Rio conventions, accounting and AI/remote sensing; milestones (Abu Dhabi Dec 2026, forum Mar 2027, Dushanbe 2028)
22Water on the UN agenda only recently; EU water commissioner; old institutions on old hydrology; close
23Q1: individual behaviour; diets; the cleanest AI use is no use
24Q2: rebound and Jevons; institutions; water managers’ job description
25Q3: valuing water; cheap food; gender and water
26Q4: the waste campaign; diplomacy; narratives; farmers as “saviors of the planet”
27Q5: self-interest vs ethics; no transferable prescription; thresholds set locally
28Hickey’s close; Brace thanks; reception

Putting it together

The mental model in one paragraph. For a century the water profession treated shortage as a supply gap: build, drill, transfer, then desalinate and recycle. That was a fix that fails. Each new unit of supply attracted new demand, and the system borrowed from nature’s income (rivers, soil moisture) and then from its savings (aquifers, glaciers, wetlands). When use is above income and savings and the damage cannot be undone (tipping points, subsidence, cities built around reservoirs), the system is bankrupt, not in crisis. That changes the question from “how do we return to normal?” to “how do we stop further irreversible loss, adapt and change the model?” The cause is not a lack of knowledge but political economy: farmers hold 70% of the water, jobs depend on it, and leaders delay. Rich diversified economies can cope; poor farm-dependent ones cannot, so the hit is unjust. The way forward is to diversify economies, finance the south, account for water, treat water as an upstream sector with many co-benefits, and use narratives that unite left and right, north and south. Each society must set its own thresholds.

Three tensions to keep open

  1. Diagnosis vs metaphor. Is bankruptcy a measurable state or a persuasive frame? Madani says the first; critics see the second.
  2. Global north’s interest. “It will come to you too” (Madani) vs “we can import food” (also Madani). Interest may arrive only after harm.
  3. Efficiency vs justice. Moving water from cucumbers to data centres can raise returns and still be unjust. Who decides the test, and who captures the gains?

Open questions the talk leaves

  • Where is the line, in practice, between a bankrupt aquifer and a recoverable one?
  • What replaces water as a livelihood for the farm households he mentions, and on what time scale?
  • Can a “post-crisis” label mobilise action instead of resignation?

Reading path

  • Start: The UNU-INWEH Global Water Bankruptcy report summary and Madani’s 13 misconceptions. Then Grafton et al. (2018), “The paradox of irrigation efficiency” (Science, 3 pages).
  • Then: Hardin (1968) and Ostrom, Governing the Commons (ch. 1–3). Scheffer et al. (2001), “Catastrophic shifts in ecosystems”. Reisner, Cadillac Desert (intro). Di Baldassarre et al. on the reservoir effect. Milly et al. (2008), “Stationarity is dead”.
  • Deeper: Wolf’s transboundary database papers. The Global Commission on the Economics of Water reports. Dasgupta Review (2021). Li et al. (2023), “Making AI Less Thirsty”. Linton, What Is Water? Molle and Wester, River Basin Trajectories.

Part 1 — Before you read

Key terms

  • Water crisis vs water stress vs water bankruptcy. Stress is a ratio: demand against supply. A crisis is a severe, temporary episode. Bankruptcy, in Madani’s use, is a state: insolvency plus irreversibility. Watch out: bankruptcy is a metaphor borrowed from finance, but he insists it is a diagnostic label. The UN report and a companion paper, Water Bankruptcy: The Formal Definition (Water Resources Management), set it out. Finance bankruptcy is only about insolvency; the water version adds irreversibility.
  • Insolvency (water). Long-run withdrawals and pollution exceed renewable inflow and safe depletion limits. In finance, one can be insolvent and still operate, as Madani says.
  • Irreversibility. The damage cannot be restored “in reasonable time frames”, either physically (an extinct species, subsided land) or socio-economically (you cannot remove Tehran’s reservoirs and move 14 million people).
  • Checking account / savings account. His analogy. Checking = yearly renewable flows (rivers, soil moisture or “green water”, snow). Savings = stocks built over centuries to millennia (aquifers, glaciers, wetlands).
  • Green water vs blue water. Blue water is liquid water in rivers, lakes and aquifers. Green water is soil moisture available to plants. He says green is checking and yellow is saving about a slide, and notes soil moisture is falling. (The terms come from Malin Falkenmark; see idea 1.)
  • Anthropogenic drought. A drought made by human use, so the problem persists even when rain is normal.
  • Natural capital. The stock of living and non-living nature that yields flows of services. Madani says water is tied to the rest of it and relied upon by it.
  • Product vs machinery. Water as a good that we allocate and deliver, versus water as the output of a climate-biodiversity-soil-ice system.
  • Decoupling. Making an economy less dependent on water. He says full decoupling is “impossible because there is no dry activity”, but pressure can be reduced by diversifying.
  • Rebound effect / Jevons paradox. When efficiency or new supply makes a resource cheaper to use, total use can rise. Named for William Stanley Jevons (coal, 1865). Many water scholars call it the paradox of irrigation efficiency (see idea 3).
  • Upstream vs downstream sector. In his usage, a downstream sector gets what other sectors leave (policy treats water as a service). An upstream sector, such as energy or finance, shapes the others. He wants water treated as upstream.
  • Day Zero. The day a city’s taps run dry. Cape Town in 2018 made the phrase famous (from memory).
  • Water accounting. Measuring where water comes from and where it goes. He says governance of bankruptcy “starts with accounting”.
  • SDG 6. UN Sustainable Development Goal 6: clean water and sanitation for all by 2030. He says the world will not deliver it.
  • Hydro-social / political economy. The study of who gets water, who pays, who decides, and why reform stalls. Madani uses “political economy” to explain why the gap persists.

People and works named (a reading list)

Person / workWhy they come upStart with
Kaveh MadaniSpeaker. Water systems, game theory, policyGlobal Water Bankruptcy: Living Beyond Our Hydrological Means in the Post-Crisis Era (UNU-INWEH, Jan 2026); the formal-definition paper above; his UNU commentary on 13 misconceptions
JevonsThe paradox, raised in Q2W. S. Jevons, The Coal Question (1865)
Susan GaskinHost’s welcome; Brace historyBrace Centre pages†
Brace CentreEvent hostMcGill Brace Centre for Water Resources Management
Israel as a “good case”Resilience from economy, not just technologySee idea 4
Johan RockströmNot named; “boundaries” appear in Madani’s aside we just heard about crossing the boundariesPlanetary boundaries (see idea 1)

The speaker’s own frame

Madani trained in systems analysis and game theory. He says his thinking on “crisis” began with a 2014 paper on Iran’s water crisis and a 2016 documentary clip. He has run UNU-INWEH (the UN University’s water institute, based in Canada, founded 1996, 30 years old this year). The institute’s January 2026 report and the Water Resources Management paper “Water Bankruptcy: The Formal Definition” are the core texts. He won the 2026 Stockholm Water Prize, announced 18 March 2026; he is reported as its youngest laureate, the first UN official and the first former politician to win (UNRIC). He is a long-time critic of “prescriptions” that ignore political economy and of the habit of treating water as the end of a pipe.

The current debate (2025–26)

  • Is “bankruptcy” a good term? The report was among the most-covered UN outputs of the year, and also drew pushback. A German-language piece quotes hydrologist Jörg Dietrich saying the analogy “limps”: in law, bankruptcy means either restructuring or a final end, not a firm that keeps running at lower capacity (Der Standard). Search results also indicate a UK researcher (Jonathan Paul, Royal Holloway) called the global claim “overstated” (exact source not confirmed). Madani’s reply is the paper’s: add irreversibility, and treat the term as diagnostic. He has also written a 13-misconceptions commentary. Found no deeper independent peer critique; the sources I found are mostly his own or news coverage.
  • Efficiency and rebound. The scientific base for Q2: Grafton et al. (Science, 2018) argued that irrigation-efficiency gains rarely cut total water use, because the “saved” water is re-used on more or thirstier crops. They called for water accounting, caps and attention to incentives. This is the live policy argument behind “the problem is institutions, not engineering”.
  • Colorado River as the stress test. In July 2026 both big reservoirs hit record lows; Powell was under 30 feet above the level where Glen Canyon Dam cannot generate power, and the seven states had not agreed cuts, with a federal plan expected (KUER). Madani uses the basin as a case where a wealthy economy copes (California) while the physical system is bankrupt.
  • AI, data centres and water. A UNU-INWEH report in June 2026 projected data-centre water use of about 9.3 trillion litres by 2030, which the authors compare to the basic domestic needs of 1.3 billion people (Smart Water Magazine). Madani adds that the energy that feeds data centres, and chips and mining upstream, use water too.
  • Politics of water in 2026. The UN Water Conference (Abu Dhabi, 8–10 Dec 2026) and the Dushanbe conference (May 2028) are the milestones he names. The Court of Arbitration ruled on 31 Aug 2026 that India’s April 2025 “abeyance” of the Indus Waters Treaty did not suspend or end it; India rejects the ruling (JURIST). Madani’s remark on treaties being compromised or destabilized fits this.
  • War and water. The US–Israel war with Iran began 28 Feb 2026 and brought strikes on desalination facilities in the Gulf; commentators call it a possible “water war” (World Politics Review). Madani, an Iranian exile, mentions the Hormuz closure as an example of a disrupted equilibrium, and refers to his own country “in a big war”. Treat this as context, not as his analysis.

The ideas

Madani spoke for an hour to a room that mostly knew water. He used a few big ideas without unpacking them: insolvency, irreversibility, natural capital, rebound, political economy, decoupling, common denominator. Each has a long history. Eight families of ideas meet in this talk:

 HOW WATER WAS MANAGED ───────┐                  ┌─── LIMITS, THRESHOLDS, TIPPING POINTS
 hydraulic mission · IWRM      │                  │    Malthus · Hardin · Limits to Growth
 water security · "stationarity│                  │    Holling · Scheffer · Planetary boundaries
 is dead"                      ▼                  ▼
                       ┌─────────────────────────────────┐
 NATURAL CAPITAL &     │  MADANI: water is bankrupt when │   REBOUND, PARADOX, FIXES
 ACCOUNTING  ────────► │  it is insolvent AND the damage │ ◄──── THAT FAIL
 Daly · Costanza ·     │  cannot be undone — so adapt,   │   Jevons · levee effect · safe-yield myth
 Dasgupta · SEEA       │  diversify, change the model    │   Grafton 2018 · Senge
                       └─────────────────────────────────┘
                          ▲             ▲             ▲
   POLITICAL ECONOMY      │   WATER DIPLOMACY         │   NARRATIVE, GAME THEORY,
   OF WATER               │   & GEOPOLITICS           │   BEHAVIOUR CHANGE
   Wittfogel · Worster ·  │   Wolf · Zeitoun ·        │   Nash · Ostrom · nudges ·
   Molle · Allan ·        │   Indus · hydro-hegemony  │   social tipping · framing
   resource curse         │                           │
                          └──────── AI & THE NEW DEMAND (data centres, chips) ────────┘

Where each school of thought is covered:

  • How water was managed — from “hydraulic mission” to “stationarity is dead”: idea 3
  • Limits, thresholds and tipping points: idea 1
  • Rebound, paradox and “fixes that fail”: idea 3
  • Natural capital, accounting and the language of “bankruptcy”: idea 2
  • The political economy of water: idea 4
  • Water diplomacy, geopolitics and common denominators: idea 5
  • Game theory, narrative and behaviour change: idea 7
  • AI, data centres and the new demand: idea 6

1. Water bankruptcy: why “crisis” is the wrong word

In short. Madani says “crisis” is the wrong word, because a crisis is temporary and assumes the baseline still exists. He uses a bank account image: renewable flows are income, aquifers and glaciers are savings. Both are now strained, which is insolvency. It becomes bankruptcy when damage is irreversible, past a tipping point, and that can be physical or socioeconomic.

🎙 In the talk. Madani says the idea came from a “philosophical challenge”. In 2014 he wrote on Iran’s water crisis. In 2016, watching a black-and-white film, he heard “water crisis” and thought: “how can we be in a crisis for so long?” He says crisis is “by nature … a temporary episode … something we join all forces to address”, and it carries a hidden belief “that the baseline conditions are still there”.

His definition builds in steps:

  • Nature has a checking account (renewable flows, like salaries) and a savings account (aquifers, glaciers). Good years add to savings. Bad years draw on them. The rule: “as long as our expenditure is below the available income … we are fine in the long run.”
  • Today checking is under strain (rivers, soil moisture, climate change) and savings are being drained. That is “an extended state of insolvency”.
  • But “insolvency on itself does not mean bankruptcy. There are many corporations that are in the insolvency mode and yet not bankrupt.” What darkens it is irreversibility: nature “has some level of resilience … it’s generous … a silent stakeholder”, but after a tipping point the system “cannot be brought back to where it was even if you have all the resources of the world”.
  • Irreversibility can be physical (extinct species, land subsidence) or “socioeconomic or political”: Tehran has 14 million people living around its reservoirs, so you cannot “remove the reservoirs and ask people to move out”.
  • “You have irreversibility once the two appear together. You have the state of water bankruptcy as the dominant state”. “What you thought would be just a temporary abnormal is now your new normal”.

Three clarifications he insists on:

  • It does not mean every nation, basin or aquifer is bankrupt; the claim is that “more and more systems” are pushed there.
  • It is not about how much water you have: “what matters is how you manage your assets”. Waterloo is the example. Quality counts too: polluted water on paper is a “toxic asset”.
  • It is not “the planet is out of water”. The problem is uneven distribution and the loss of ability to recover.

Why the label matters, in his words: the typical reaction of a bankrupt entity is to “deny … and say I need another credit card”. But the baseline itself is moving: “we are dealing with a dynamic enterprise”. So “we have to admit that we are bankrupt”, “adapt to this new reality”, and “claim bankruptcy and change the model”. “Nostalgic management will not solve the problem”. He frames the hopeful side: the good thing about bankruptcy is “you accept you have failed … communicate to all the creditors … and then adapt”; what is worse is “that you delay the admission”. So bankruptcy is “a postcrisis state”.

📚 Deeper theory

  • The two-part definition fits resilience science. Insolvency is a stock-flow imbalance (Meadows, Daly). Irreversibility is hysteresis (Holling, Scheffer) (Roots). The paper adds nothing exotic to those fields; what is new is packaging them into one policy label with a clear test. Whether the label travels is the debate (Part 1).
  • A crisis frame carries a built-in theory of change. If it’s a crisis, you expect to end it. Koselleck’s krisis is a decision point after which things resolve (idea 2). Water managers have in effect been treating every drought as an exception to “normal operations” and writing contingency plans. Milly’s “stationarity is dead” (idea 3) says the baseline is the problem, which is Madani’s claim in hydrology language.
  • What “irreversible” means in practice. Reversal can be technically possible and still not happen. Aquifer compaction (land subsidence) permanently reduces storage; the pores close. Wetland drainage can in principle be undone with money and decades, but the people, farms and cities that now sit on the land make it costly. Madani’s “in reasonable time frames” is the key qualifier. It is a practical irreversibility, which means it depends on a society’s costs and time horizon, and so is partly a political judgement. This is why he says societies must set their own thresholds.
  • Distinguish three words that are often blurred. Scarcity (not enough, physically or economically), stress (a ratio), bankruptcy (insolvent and irreversibly damaged). A place can be wet and stressed; dry and well-adapted (Israel, parts of the Gulf); wet and bankrupt (Madani’s Waterloo case).
  • Metaphor and measurement. The finance language gives intuition (income, savings, toxic assets). But “safe depletion limits” and “irreversibility thresholds” are hard to measure. The paper acknowledges they are social choices (not confirmed here, since I could not read its full text). Madani repeats this in Q5: “we don’t want to name a nation that is bankrupt”.

📚 Roots: Limits, thresholds and tipping points

The problem. How does a system that looks resilient suddenly change state? And when is damage permanent? This is the technical home of the word irreversibility.

  1. Malthus (1798) and the carrying-capacity idea. Population grows faster than food. Often refuted by technology, still invoked. Gaskin’s remark about four billion and the “physical limits” is a carrying-capacity statement. Estimates differ widely depending on assumptions, so use with care.
  2. Garrett Hardin, “The Tragedy of the Commons” (Science, 1968). A shared pasture is overgrazed because each herder gains the full benefit of one more animal and bears only a share of the cost. It is the model for Madani’s steal from nature, a silent stakeholder: nature cannot bargain, so the cost is pushed onto it.
  3. Elinor Ostrom, Governing the Commons (1990; Nobel 2009). The reply: communities often do manage commons well, with clear boundaries, local rules, monitoring and graded sanctions. This matters for Madani’s final point that societies must set their own thresholds.
  4. Limits to Growth (Meadows et al., 1972). A systems-dynamics model showing overshoot and collapse when a stock is drawn faster than it regenerates. Donella Meadows’s later essay on leverage points (1999) ranks where to intervene in a system, with goals and paradigms at the top. Madani’s “change the model” and “new narrative” are paradigm-level interventions.
  5. Resilience and regime shifts (Holling, 1973). C. S. “Buzz” Holling distinguished engineering resilience (bounce back fast) from ecological resilience (how much shock a system absorbs before it flips to another stable state). Scheffer et al. (Nature, 2001) described catastrophic shifts: lakes that tip from clear to turbid, rangelands from grass to scrub. A feature is hysteresis: reversing the cause does not reverse the state. This is the scientific content of “irreversibility”. Lake Urmia, the Aral Sea and Lake Chad on Madani’s slide are the classic cases.
  6. Peak water (Gleick and Palaniappan, 2010). A key distinction: peak renewable, peak non-renewable and peak ecological water. When you mine non-renewable groundwater, you run down a stock. This is Madani’s savings account.
  7. Planetary boundaries (Rockström et al., 2009; Steffen et al., 2015; Earth Commission, 2023). A set of limits for the Earth system within which humanity can live safely. In 2023 the Earth Commission added a just dimension. A separate paper (Stewart-Koster et al., Nature Sustainability, 2024) set safe and just boundaries for surface water and groundwater. Gleeson et al. (2020) argued for a water-cycle boundary built on environmental flows and groundwater. Madani says we just heard about crossing the boundaries, pointing at this literature from an earlier session.
  8. The Global Commission on the Economics of Water (2023–24). Co-chaired by Johan Rockström, Mariana Mazzucato, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and Tharman Shanmugaratnam. Its 2023 report Turning the Tide said the world would fail on climate and development if it fails on water, and that we can no longer count on precipitation. Its second-phase report framed the hydrological cycle as a global common good (reported by secondary sources; I did not verify the details). This is the closest scholarly cousin of Madani’s “water is upstream”.
  9. Green water (Falkenmark, 1990s–2006). Malin Falkenmark separated blue water (flows and stocks) from green water (soil moisture used by plants). Most of the water that supplies food is green. Madani’s remark that soil moisture is a “checking account that’s becoming more limited” draws on this.

The thread. Hardin explains why the damage happens (no one owns the cost). Holling and Scheffer explain why it can be permanent (alternative stable states, hysteresis). Rockström turns it into numbers and justice. Madani turns it into a name for a policy audience.

Where others push back

  • “The analogy misleads.” Dietrich (via Der Standard): bankruptcy in law means restructuring or end, not permanent reduced operation. Madani’s reply: the irreversibility clause and the “post-crisis” label do that work.
  • “Overstated.” A UK academic said the global claim is overstated (see Part 1; source not confirmed). Madani agrees it is not global in every basin; he says systems are interconnected through trade, so critical ones matter globally.
  • “Doom framing demobilises.” Communication research (from memory) finds that fear without efficacy can lead to avoidance. Madani’s response is the “hopeful” reading of bankruptcy, and a line in the closing that “this dark report ends by pointing to water as a game-changer”.
  • “Political risk of ‘declaring’ bankruptcy.” The term could hand governments an excuse (“it’s too late”) or invite creditors (outside actors) to intervene. His answer is to keep the definition local and society-defined.

What he leaves out. A worked method to decide whether a given aquifer or basin has crossed the line, and who decides. In the keynote he gives no thresholds, no ranking and no count of how many systems qualify. (The report may; I did not read it.)

Check yourself

  1. Why is insolvency not enough to call something bankrupt in Madani’s definition?
  2. Name one physical and one socio-political form of irreversibility he gives.
  3. A wet region mismanages groundwater. Is it water-bankrupt on his account? Why?

2. Water as a product of a machinery: natural capital and the “upstream” claim

In short. Water has been treated as a downstream sector, but he says it is a product of a machinery. Climate, biodiversity and other natural capital feed it and depend on it. You cannot protect the product if the process is being disrupted. He turns this into an opportunity: water as an upstream sector with returns across health, food, energy and peace.

🎙 In the talk. Madani says water “traditionally has been the downstream sector in the policy conversations”. The rest of natural capital relies on water and water relies on it, “and this is an absent element of many conversations”. He puts it this way: “We talk about climate change impacts on water a lot. We don’t talk enough about water impacts on climate”. And: “Water is connected to a machinery that produces it … we have been very focused on water allocation, water management as a service … but this good is a product of a process.” The question: “How can you protect the product if the process itself is being disrupted?“. Feedbacks follow: “water loss is also a climate problem … a biodiversity problem”. The same fact is a complication (interventions outside the water sector) and “an opportunity”.

Later he flips the framing: water “can become an upstream sector where you can get a lot of return on investment in multiple sectors”. It links to peace and security, human rights, health, poverty, food, energy, climate. It fits the three Rio conventions (biodiversity, climate, desertification), “on which we are not making a lot of progress”; one is hosted in Montreal. His ask: create “value for investment in water that is beyond the humanitarian element”. He also wants co-benefits to be researched.

📚 Deeper theory

  • Water is a flow in a cycle, not only a stock in a pipe. Roughly, the land surface recycles moisture: evaporation from forests and soils becomes rain downwind (moisture recycling, Rockström and others; Dirmeyer, van der Ent). So deforestation in one place can reduce rainfall elsewhere. This is the physical basis for “water loss is also a climate problem” and “biodiversity problem”. The Global Commission on the Economics of Water (idea 1) built its case on this idea.
  • Ecosystem-services language. In the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment (2005) wetlands, forests and soils provide regulating services (flood control, water purification, climate regulation). “The machinery” is that service flow. Costanza and TEEB try to price it (Roots).
  • Green water and land use. Rain that falls on forests and fields is the largest part of the freshwater used by humans (green water; Falkenmark). So “water policy” that only handles rivers and wells misses most of the water cycle’s human use. Land-use policy is water policy.
  • The nexus. The water-energy-food nexus (Bonn conference 2011; Hoff) says these three are coupled: energy needs water, water needs energy (pumping, treating, desalination), food needs both. Madani’s data centre point is a nexus argument.
  • Upstream vs downstream in policy-making. In public policy, “mainstreaming” is the attempt to embed a concern in other ministries. Water has often been a line ministry (a department like roads) and so can only react to what finance, planning, energy and agriculture decide. His claim that those departments’ choices (city siting, economic structure, population, migration) shape water is exactly what he says in Q2: water managers “don’t make decisions about where to place cities … the composition of the economy”.
  • Return on investment framing. This is an investment case argument, used by the Global Commission on the Economics of Water and by development banks: every dollar in water yields multiple dollars in health and productivity (the best-known version is a WHO figure for sanitation)†. Madani uses it to attract “the north”.

📚 Roots: Natural capital, accounting and the language of “bankruptcy”

The problem. What does it buy you to talk about water in the language of money? And what does it risk?

  1. Natural capital (E. F. Schumacher, 1973; Herman Daly, 1977 on). Daly’s steady-state economics treats the economy as a subsystem of the biosphere. Strong sustainability holds that natural capital cannot be fully substituted by built capital (a dam does not replace a river’s ecology). Weak sustainability says it can. “Insolvency” fits the strong view: you consumed principal.
  2. Costanza et al. (Nature, 1997). The first widely cited global estimate of the value of ecosystem services (about 33 trillion USD per year in 1995 dollars, from memory). Controversial, but it created the idea of pricing nature’s flows. The TEEB study (2010) built on it.
  3. System of Environmental-Economic Accounting (SEEA). The UN statistical standard: SEEA Central Framework (2012) and SEEA Ecosystem Accounting (2021). It covers water accounts. Madani’s call for “accounting” has an established framework behind it, which most countries have not adopted fully.
  4. Dasgupta Review (UK Treasury, 2021). The Economics of Biodiversity: GDP ignores depreciation of natural assets, so countries look richer than they are. This is the economics version of “you thought you were rich because you did not count the drawdown.”
  5. Water footprints and virtual water. Tony Allan (1990s) noticed that water-poor Middle East states cope by importing food: “virtual water”. Arjen Hoekstra (2002 on) built the water footprint. Mekonnen and Hoekstra (2012) estimated that animal products have much higher water footprints per calorie. This is the background for Q1 on diets and for Madani’s “we import food … that model works and might not be there forever”.
  6. Finance concepts he borrows. Solvency (assets exceed liabilities) vs liquidity (cash now). Toxic assets (an asset that is on the books but not worth its book value). Madani: water on paper that is too polluted to use is a toxic asset. Also Chapter 11 vs Chapter 7: reorganisation vs liquidation (the US legal parallel to Dietrich’s objection; my link, not his). Madani’s own claim is that bankruptcy is a start, a place from which “you can prevent further irreversible damages”.
  7. Metaphor in policy (Lakoff and Johnson, Metaphors We Live By, 1980). A metaphor does not only decorate: it highlights some facts and hides others. “Crisis” signals “temporary, call the fire brigade”. “Bankruptcy” signals “audit, write off, restructure”. Madani’s whole move is a reframing. His own wary line is that it must not become “just a metaphor”.
  8. Crisis as a concept (Reinhart Koselleck, 1970s). The historian Koselleck traced “crisis” from Greek krisis (a decisive turning point) to a vague sign of danger in modern use. Madani makes a similar point: philosophically, a crisis is “an extreme … temporary episode”, and “how can we be in a crisis for so long?“. Related ideas: “permacrisis” (Collins Word of the Year 2022) and “polycrisis” (Edgar Morin; Adam Tooze popularised it in 2022). Madani wants a new word rather than a stretched old one.

The thread. Accounting gives the ability to see the drawdown. Metaphor gives the ability to say it. Madani asks for both. The risk is that the financial frame makes people expect a rescue or a clean reset, which nature does not offer.

Where others push back

  • “Everything is connected” can paralyse. A concept that links to everything gives no priority. “Water as upstream of everything” risks becoming a slogan. Some water professionals prefer concrete wins (utility reform, leakage, metering) to the grand frame.
  • Competition for the same pot. Health, energy and climate advocates also say they are upstream of everything. Funding is finite, so water’s claim competes (Madani’s own point about fragmented aid).
  • Nexus governance is hard. Experience with nexus approaches is mixed: ministries rarely coordinate, and the nexus can become a research word with little policy effect (from memory).

What he leaves out. Detail on how a ministry or a country makes water upstream: which budget line, which decision rule, which statutory power. He gives the argument, not the mechanism.

Check yourself

  1. What is the difference between water as “product” and as “machinery”? Give an example where protecting the machinery protects the product.
  2. Why does Madani think the water sector’s job description limits it?
  3. Why might “water is upstream of everything” be both persuasive and weak?

3. The supply spiral, the backfiring fix and the rebound

In short. The world answered the gap between demand and supply with more supply: deeper wells, bigger dams, transfers, desalination. But when supply rises, consumption follows, a fix that backfires. He says rebound is old news, and the real obstacle is political economy. Cutting use costs votes, and reform has been easier in the middle of an extreme drought.

🎙 In the talk. Madani describes how the world responded to the gap between demand and supply: “dig wells, deeper and deeper wells, more dams, bigger dams, transferring water from one basin to another, then desalination, now taking water out of air, then recycling and reuse”. “All of these mainly focus on increasing supply. But what we have learned is that the moment you increase supply, demand and consumption would follow.” He calls it “a classic fix that backfires … a rebound effect” and says the energy sector shows the same: more renewables, and more energy consumption. At some point “you got to control the expenses”.

In Q2, a student asks about “supply and efficiency paradoxes” (larger reservoir, more use; more efficient irrigation, more land). Madani’s reply:

  • Rebound “might be new to some … but they have been there for a long, long time. We have published on these 20 years ago.” Some academics “are presenting this as a new discovery”.
  • “The issue is that we have to understand the political economy.” To stop farmers expanding you must say “I’m changing your permit, 20% reduction”, which is “a mission impossible in many societies”.
  • California is the example. Until the last drought “you were not even allowed to do proper measurement of groundwater”. Then a governor’s mandate cut 25% in southern California, “because the political cost of reform dropped when the system was in extreme pressure, but also because it could afford it”. “You can afford getting rid of your golf course, but you cannot afford making people unemployed.”
  • Water managers’ remit is to “fill the gap between supply and demand”. They “don’t make decisions about where to place cities … composition of the economy … population growth, migration”. “Our role is to highlight these and talk about it … if we say them loud and together we might see an impact”.
  • He adds a caution: “There are many good reasons for the fact that things haven’t changed despite that knowledge existing since Jevons first mentioned it”.

📚 Deeper theory

  • The mechanism is behavioural and structural. At the farm level, efficiency lowers the cost of water per unit of crop, so the rational farmer expands or switches to a higher-value, thirstier crop. At the basin level, the “lost” water in flood irrigation often returns to streams and aquifers, so real savings from drip irrigation are smaller than the field-level numbers suggest (Ward and Pulido-Velázquez, 2008; Grafton et al., 2018) (Roots). Real savings need a cap on consumptive use. If the cap is not binding, efficiency subsidies make things worse.
  • Why efficiency programs still get funded. They are politically easy: they give something (subsidised drip) and take nothing. A cap takes something. The political economy (Olson, Roots; Reisner, idea 4) explains the preference.
  • The same loop in cities and energy. Road building and traffic (“induced demand”), and efficiency in cars and fuel use are further instances. Economists distinguish rebound size: small (partial offset), “backfire” (more than 100%).
  • Fixes that fail (Senge). The system’s feedback lag hides the effect: the fix works in the short run (relief), the side effect appears later (greater dependence). In a political system with four-year terms, the short run wins. Madani’s “you hope by the time that bad day comes you’re no longer in office”.
  • Adaptive management and “no-regret” moves. A different answer to uncertainty: choose actions that make sense under many futures (leak repair, metering, accounting) and build review points. This is Madani’s “mitigate what can be mitigated, adapt to the new reality”.
  • California’s example, unpacked. The 2015 order was an emergency decree by the governor; once the crisis ended, the political energy dropped. This is the standard “window of opportunity” model of policy change (Kingdon, 1984; from memory): a crisis opens a short window for reform that would otherwise be impossible.

📚 Roots: How water was managed — from “hydraulic mission” to “stationarity is dead”

The problem. Why did the water profession answer scarcity with more supply for a century? Why does Madani say “nostalgic management will not solve the problem”?

  1. The hydraulic mission (c. 1900–1970s). A term from the historian Donald Worster (and later water scholars) for the era in which states saw nature’s rivers as wasted until captured: dams, canals, big irrigation. In the US the Bureau of Reclamation (founded 1902) built the Hoover and Glen Canyon dams that create Lake Mead and Lake Powell, the two lakes Madani shows. The goal was supply for growth. Madani’s list of “digging deeper wells, bigger dams, transfers, desalination, now taking water out of air, recycling” is this logic, extended step by step.
  2. Demand management (1970s–90s). After the 1970s oil shocks and droughts, “soft path” thinkers such as Peter Gleick (soft path, 2002) and Amory Lovins (energy) argued that you could meet needs by using less. Pricing, metering and conservation joined engineering.
  3. IWRM (Dublin and Rio, 1992; Global Water Partnership, 1996). Integrated Water Resources Management says: manage water by whole basin, include all uses and users, treat water as an economic good, involve stakeholders. It became the dominant doctrine. Gaskin notes Brace’s own IWRM masters in 2009. Madani is polite but sharp: IWRM in some cases is “very theoretical” because it ignores political economy. Critics from inside the field agree. Molle (2008) called IWRM a “nirvana concept”: a goal everyone endorses, which is why it guides no one. Biswas (2004) argued that it was vague and hard to apply (both from memory)†.
  4. Water security (Grey and Sadoff, 2007). A shift in framing from supply to risk: water security is the capacity to safeguard sustainable access to enough, adequate-quality water for livelihoods and health, along with protection against water-related hazards. Gaskin’s and Hickey’s titles (security, resilience) belong here.
  5. “Stationarity is dead” (Milly et al., Science, 2008). Water infrastructure, rights and treaties were designed on the assumption that the past statistics of flow predict the future (stationarity). Climate change breaks that. Madani’s last substantive point: institutions, water rights, treaties and infrastructure “have been built on the hydrology and climate conditions that no longer exist”, so reservoirs are “either too small or too big”. This is the same argument.
  6. Socio-hydrology (Sivapalan, Savenije and Blöschl, 2012). A call to treat humans as part of the water system rather than as an outside “forcing”. Madani’s water is a victim and also a contributor is socio-hydrology in plain words. The levee effect and reservoir effect (Roots) are its best-known results.
  7. Closing basins (Molle, 2003; Molle and Wester, 2009). A river basin “closes” when all the water is allocated, so more use for one party means less for another. The Colorado, Murray-Darling, Yellow River and Indus are textbook cases. The social consequence: reallocation must happen. This links to Madani’s reallocation will happen either by plan or by market and politics.

What this tradition gives the talk. The supply spiral he describes is not a mistake by individual engineers. It was the design of the field. His “post-crisis” claim says the design has reached its edge.

📚 Roots: Rebound, paradox and “fixes that fail”

The problem. Why does adding supply or efficiency often make the shortage worse? Q2 asked it, and Madani gave two different answers: it is old, and it is political.

  1. Jevons, The Coal Question (1865). Better steam engines made coal cheaper per unit of work, and total coal use rose. Madani’s “Jevons paradox point”.
  2. Khazzoom–Brookes postulate (1980s). The energy-economics version: efficiency gains lead to higher total use. Energy economists distinguish direct rebound (you drive more because the car is cheaper to run) from indirect rebound and economy-wide effects.
  3. The levee effect (Gilbert White, 1945). The geographer White found that flood protection encourages building on the flood plain. The next big flood then does more damage. Reservoirs behave the same way: Di Baldassarre et al. (2018) call it the reservoir effect, where supply security attracts demand, making water users more dependent and more vulnerable in a drought. Madani’s the reservoirs we built to protect us are now empty themselves and “reservoirs can now be a source of vulnerability” are this effect seen from the drought side.
  4. The “safe yield” myth (Bredehoeft, 1997). Groundwater managers long said an aquifer can be pumped at the rate of natural recharge. Bredehoeft argued this ignores that pumping captures water that would otherwise feed streams and wetlands: you cannot withdraw “recharge” for free†.
  5. Irrigation efficiency: Ward and Pulido-Velázquez (PNAS, 2008) and Grafton et al. (Science, 2018). They showed that drip and sprinkler gains typically cut applied water per hectare, but not consumed water at basin scale, because the saved water is used on more land or thirstier crops. Reason: part of what flowed back into the system was “wasted” only on paper. Grafton et al. recommend water accounting, caps on extraction and careful treatment of incentives (IFPRI summary). The policy cure is a cap, not a gadget. This is the exact thing Madani says needs “institutional” backing: “I’m changing your permit, 20% reduction”.
  6. Systems thinking: “fixes that fail” and “shifting the burden.” Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline, 1990) names archetypes. A fix that backfires relieves a symptom quickly while strengthening the cause. Madani uses the exact phrase: a classic fix that backfires. The tragedy of the commons and escalation are two others.
  7. Supply-demand spiral. Increase supply → price falls or reliability rises → new users arrive → demand rises → crisis again, now with a bigger dependent population. This fits Tehran, where the city grew around its reservoirs.
  8. Why the spiral is political. Mancur Olson (The Logic of Collective Action, 1965) argued that small, concentrated groups (farmers on a canal) organise better than diffuse ones (urban users, ecosystems). So reform that takes water from the concentrated group stalls. Madani’s “you hope by the time that bad day comes you’re no longer in office” is public-choice economics in plain English.

The thread. Rebound is a mechanism (people use the freed-up resource). Lock-in is the reason it persists (institutions and incentives). Madani insists on the second. Many engineers present rebound as a discovery; he says it is “twenty years old” in water.

Where others push back

  • Rebound is not universal. Under a strict cap or with metering and pricing, savings can hold. Examples exist (from memory): some Australian reforms bought back water rights to enforce a cap in the Murray-Darling Basin, though even there results are disputed.
  • “Supply” is not always the villain. In places with real access gaps (parts of Africa and South Asia), more supply is needed. Madani says this explicitly: SDG6 access is not a major contributor to bankruptcy.
  • The “rebound is old news” stance can be read as complacent. Knowledge has not produced reform; some would say the messaging matters as much as the knowledge, which is why he built a new term.

What he leaves out. A positive example of a place that capped use and held it. He gives California’s 25% as a one-off, not a model, and does not discuss the Murray-Darling or the Western US groundwater districts.

Check yourself

  1. Why does efficient irrigation often fail to reduce total water use at basin scale?
  2. What does Madani say is the real barrier to using what we know about rebound?
  3. Why did the California cut work when it did?

4. Unequal exposure: farmers, jobs, diversification and the justice test

In short. Water bankruptcy is not only a problem of dry regions, but its impact differs. Rich economies have decoupled from water and can import food. Where jobs depend on water, a drought becomes a national security crisis. Seventy percent of the world’s water is with farmers, and he asks whether anyone has a plan for them.

🎙 In the talk. Water bankruptcy “is not limited to the dry Middle East or Africa” but “in terms of impact … is different”. His COVID analogy: the virus “doesn’t discriminate” but “had a hard time getting to our bodies in richer societies” because they had resilience. So “a major drought in California does not necessarily impact the economy of California”, even though the Colorado River Basin can be bankrupt. But where economies “have not decoupled themselves from water”, a drought “becomes a national security crisis” because it hits livelihoods. In Q1 he gives the numbers logic: if agriculture is ~2% of California’s GDP, its cities might fail but the economy would not; for Pakistan, India or Iran it would.

The political economy core is. “Seventy percent of the world’s water is in the hands of farmers … we have a political economy problem. We have to have a plan for those farmers. Do we have a plan? … It is not [on the global agenda].” Many economies “heavily rely on water for employment … cannot overnight diversify”. If the water goes, jobs go, then “forced displacement … hunger … health issues … tensions and national security problems”. Governments face “two very dark options”: cut water now (chaos) or wait. “Normally you pick the latter.” The global north copes because “we import food … we have wealth … that model works … but might not be there forever”.

What to do: at the national level, diversify so that the economy is not collapsed by pressure on water: “full decoupling is impossible because there is no dry activity in the world but reducing the pressure is possible.” For each 10 or 20 farms, one could have “one farm or even a robot working there … less water use, less land use and more food … provided that you can have alternative modes of livelihood for those people”. Israel is the lesson: not just desalination and reuse but “the economy of that country is resilient … unicorns … industry and service”. But “poor countries of the south cannot diversify themselves. So you need to provide technology and finance.” At the local level: “increased productivity and protection of the farmers because this is a justice issue.” Reallocation will happen, to cities, rich users and data centres, “the question is whether you manage that process with equity in mind or you let it happen”. The data-centre vs cucumber-farm test: efficient on return, but “if that cucumber farmer is not going to gain anything … it’s a justice issue.”

📚 Deeper theory

  • Exposure = hazard × vulnerability × capacity. Disaster-risk research (the “pressure and release” model of Blaikie, Cannon, Davis and Wisner, 1994) says harm depends on who is hit and what protections they have, not on the hazard alone. Madani’s COVID analogy is the same logic: the hazard is shared; the harm is not.
  • Why farmers hold the water. Agriculture takes about 70% of global freshwater withdrawals (a number the FAO and others repeat; the Grafton paper also uses it). Cities and industry together use much less. So any serious shortage must involve agriculture, and agriculture is where poverty, votes and food security meet.
  • Structural transformation and the “pull” problem. Development economics (Lewis, 1954; Kuznets; Rodrik on premature deindustrialisation) shows that moving people out of farming works when non-farm jobs exist. Recent research warns that manufacturing’s capacity to absorb labour is falling. So “diversify” is easy to say. For India and Pakistan, “who will employ the displaced farmer?” is the open policy question (my framing).
  • Virtual water and the food-import strategy. Allan’s insight (idea 2): water-poor states import water embedded in food. This works while global food is cheap. Madani raises both sides: the north imports cheaply; “for the world to function, food should remain cheap” — and food is subsidised. If food prices rise, the poor and the importers suffer. It is a systemic risk, which fits his “hidden stabiliser” claim.
  • Water justice. Writers such as Boelens, Zwarteveen and Perreault treat water allocation as a question of recognition, participation and distribution. The idea that efficiency can justify taking water from small users is challenged as “water grabbing”. The “cucumber farm vs data centre” example in the talk is a near-perfect classroom case. The Earth Commission work (idea 1) also builds justice into the boundary.
  • Resource curse feedback. When recession or sanctions hit, a resource-dependent economy extracts more, so the loop tightens (Roots).
  • Israel, unpacked. Technology plus a diversified high-income economy plus food imports; also the high cost of water to farmers and strong enforcement (from memory). Madani rightly says you cannot copy only the technology.

📚 Roots: The political economy of water

The problem. Why do societies keep doing what they know is unsustainable? Madani’s answer is that the problem is political, not technical.

  1. Karl Wittfogel, Oriental Despotism (1957). The hydraulic hypothesis: large irrigation works require centralised bureaucracy, so water control produces despotic states. Heavily criticised (it fits some cases, not all), but it started the field.
  2. Donald Worster, Rivers of Empire (1985), and Marc Reisner, Cadillac Desert (1986). US western water as a story of power, subsidy and the Bureau of Reclamation. Reisner’s “water flows uphill to money” is the famous line. This is the history behind the Colorado River dispute.
  3. Resource curse and extraction loops. When a country relies on a natural resource for jobs and exports, shocks push it to extract more: Madani’s “you rely more on extraction; you have a reinforcing loop” for Pakistan, India or Iran. Richard Auty (1993) coined “resource curse”; the idea of Dutch disease is related.
  4. Subsidy politics. Farm power and water subsidies are a classic lock-in. India’s free-electricity pumping for farmers in Punjab and elsewhere, Iran’s cheap energy for pumping, and US farm programmes all keep demand high. (Examples†) Madani’s two options for governments: cut water now and cause chaos, or wait.
  5. Hydro-social cycle (Erik Swyngedouw, Jamie Linton). Water is not just H₂O but made by social relations: pipes, laws, money, class. Linton’s What Is Water? (2010) argues the “modern” idea of water as a pure resource is itself a historical construct. This matches Madani’s “water as product of a machinery” in a social sense.
  6. Justice and reallocation. Rutgerd Boelens and others write on water grabbing and hydrosocial territories: when cities, mines and data centres win water from farmers and Indigenous communities. Madani’s example: “data center instead of a cucumber farm”. Efficiency says yes; justice asks who benefits.
  7. Israel as a case. Madani says that outsiders admire Israel’s technology but “forget” that its economy (industry, services) is what makes it resilient. The literature agrees that desalination and reuse matter, and also stresses Israel’s high-income, diversified economy and its import of water-intensive food (from memory). Critics add that Israel’s water story is also entangled with occupation and control of shared aquifers; Madani does not raise this.
  8. Diversification as decoupling. Development economics: moving workers out of agriculture is the main route to rising income (Lewis, 1954 on). The water version is “structural transformation without destroying the farm household”. The hard part is where the jobs come from. India’s own debate on farm exit and manufacturing jobs is a live example (my link).

Where others push back

  • Diversification takes decades. Most farm households cannot wait. Short-term cuts in water use produce hardship now (his own point). So interim income support, crop switching and cash transfers matter (from memory; he does not detail them).
  • Technology can still help poor farmers. Evidence on solar pumping, low-cost sensors and drought-tolerant seed shows gains in some settings, but also rebound (solar pumps can increase groundwater use when marginal cost is zero; from memory). So “technology and finance for the south” has to be designed with caps.
  • “Reallocation to data centres” is not always bad. Cities that pay can fund water supply. Some data-centre projects use treated wastewater or reclaimed water. The issue is the terms.
  • The “global south cannot diversify” claim is general. Some middle-income countries have diversified fast. The relevant distinction is by country.

What he leaves out. Specific policy tools for the transition: cash compensation, buy-back of water rights, insurance, relocation support. He also says little about women and small farmers within the farm population, although he raises gender in Q3.

Check yourself

  1. Why does the same drought cause different harm in California and Pakistan?
  2. State the two “dark options” governments face. Why do they usually pick the second?
  3. Apply his justice test to a data centre built in a farming region.

5. Water as common denominator: agenda, politics and milestones

In short. Water is easy to agree on as a humanitarian matter, but that is not what drives bankruptcy. He says it is missing from the global agenda and has no UN entity. Yet in a fragmented world it can be a common denominator, across north and south and across left and right. He lists upcoming milestones, up to the 2028 conference.

🎙 In the talk. Water “has been politically very easy for us to agree” on as a humanitarian matter, but that “is not a major contributor to water bankruptcy”. So the global agenda has missed the main users. He says there is “no UN water entity”, and water is “not big on the global agenda”. He recalls asking at COP “why water is not in the agreement”. The global south “has been warning us … but they have not been loud enough”. “Unless we sense it, we are not going to take action on it”: COVID “started as a Chinese problem, then an Iranian problem, then hit Italy and the United States”. Dust storms, a by-product of bankruptcy, “are moving north”.

The upside: “in this world that is very fragmented, water can be a common denominator.” It matters to the global south, increasingly to the north, and within nations to both left and right: “Republicans, rural constituencies, farmers … if you’re America first or Canada first … you got to think about water availability … food security.” He argues the investment case “aligns national interest with international interests: there is nothing you do for your water sector in terms of water resilience that doesn’t benefit the world”. Milestones: the UN Water Conference in Abu Dhabi in December; the World Water Forum in March; a March preparatory meeting for the 2028 conference in Tajikistan, “the end of the action decade”, with 2030 “the year of delivery”. Countries are negotiating “a UN water conference every three years”. Water was silent from 1977 to 2023; “now EU has a commissioner with water in her title. So water is becoming an issue of the north, for good or bad reasons … through pressure”.

📚 Deeper theory

  • Why water is hard to put on a global agenda. Carbon has a single global metric and a global atmosphere. Water is a local resource that moves little across borders (it is heavy), so there is no single target. Even the main global frame, SDG6, is mostly about access. Basin-level cooperation is the real unit (Wolf, Roots). Madani’s pitch that national interest and global interest align is therefore both a political argument and a design choice.
  • Agenda-setting and focusing events (Kingdon, 1984). Issues rise when a “problem stream”, a “policy stream” and a “politics stream” meet in a window, often opened by a focusing event (Cape Town’s Day Zero, 2018; Tehran; Colorado River). Madani’s “unless we sense it” line is the same idea. The 2026–28 conferences are the “policy window” he names.
  • UN Water architecture. UN-Water (since 2003) coordinates about 30 agencies, but has no mandate or budget of an agency. A 2023 conference ended with an Agenda of commitments (the “Water Action Agenda”) rather than a binding text (from memory). For 2028, the General Assembly has agreed on a non-binding “Dushanbe Water Framework” (IISD). So Madani’s “no UN water entity” is about institutional strength, not absence.
  • Issue linking and frame bridging (Roots). The cross-party pitch is a deliberate frame: for the right, food security and rural interests; for the left, climate and justice. It is a coalition strategy.
  • The north’s stake. The global risk landscape argument: interlinked food markets, migration and conflict make “remote” water bankruptcy a source of risk everywhere. The 2022 Ukraine grain shock, which he mentions as one of the equilibria disrupted, is the model.
  • Dust storms and transboundary harms. Drying lake beds (Aral, Urmia) produce salt and dust that travel long distances (UNCCD reports; from memory). It is a case where “other people’s” water bankruptcy becomes your air-quality problem.
  • Water as peace vs water as weapon. The Indus case (Roots) is a reminder that common-denominator hopes live next to hard politics. Madani’s own regime of realism in Q4 and Q5 (below) treats this.

📚 Roots: Water diplomacy, geopolitics and common denominators

The problem. Will scarcity cause “water wars”? Or does water pull people to cooperate? Madani leans to the second, with caution, and Q4 pushes him.

  1. The “water wars” thesis. Popular since the 1980s, for example Ismail Serageldin’s 1995 line that “the wars of the next century will be about water” (from memory). It sells newspapers.
  2. Aaron Wolf and the Transboundary Freshwater Dispute Database (Oregon State). Across decades of data, states cooperate over shared water far more than they fight. A 2024 Water International synthesis (Wolf and co-authors) found cooperation dominant since the 1940s, a slight rise in conflict since 2000 driven by quantity disputes and unilateral dam-building, and institutions that help but are growing more slowly (abstract). A common shorthand: far more treaties than shooting wars.
  3. Hydro-hegemony (Zeitoun and Warner, 2006). Cooperation is not always fair: a strong riparian (upstream or downstream) can shape “agreements” in its favour. So treaty counts can hide domination.
  4. The Indus Waters Treaty (1960). For six decades a standard example of water cooperation that survived wars. India placed it “in abeyance” in April 2025. On 31 Aug 2026 a Court of Arbitration said it remains in force; India rejects that (JURIST). Madani cites Indus as a “landmark treaty” now being “compromised”. For him it is a signal of the fragile politics around water.
  5. Blue Peace and water diplomacy. The Strategic Foresight Group’s Blue Peace and the Geneva Water Hub’s work argue that water can be a platform for dialogue even between enemies. The UN’s 2023 conference and the “Water Action Decade” belong here.
  6. Global agenda-setting. Why is water absent from top-level climate and security agendas? Water is local (every basin differs), so it resists a single global target in a way carbon does not (one number, 1.5°C). Madani’s point on COP: “why water is not in the agreement”. The scholarly term is the governance gap; the call for a global panel on water echoes the IPCC model.
  7. Framing for a divided audience. Madani’s cross-party pitch: “farmers are the saviors of the planet”; “America first … you got to think about water availability”. In political science this is issue linking and frame bridging (Snow and Benford, 1986): connect an issue to the values of different groups.

Where others push back

  • “Common denominator” may overstate it. Water is also a source of competition between farmers, cities, upstream and downstream. The “cooperation” evidence (Wolf) is at the level of treaties; domestic water conflicts are common. (From memory.)
  • Frame-bridging risks. The farmer-as-saviour narrative may flatter the group whose water use must fall. Using it to open the door is fine; if it replaces reform, it fails.
  • Conference fatigue. Observers question how much UN conferences change; 2023’s outcome was voluntary. Madani does not claim they are decisive; he treats them as arenas for narrative.
  • Global-north interest is conditional. Madani says the British academics first said “this is a problem of the Middle East” and that fixing it may seem unattractive to the north. His argument that interest will follow pressure is realist, not idealistic.

What he leaves out. What a binding or institutional outcome would look like (a basin cap treaty, a global panel on water, a financing facility). He treats the conferences as stages for narrative rather than specifying the “ask”.

Check yourself

  1. Why does he say humanitarian access is “politically easy” but not the main issue?
  2. What is the logic behind the cross-party pitch? Give one example for each side.
  3. Why is the 2028 conference tied to the “action decade”?

6. Accounting, valuation, AI and the individual (Q1 and Q3)

In short. Bankruptcy governance starts with accounting: countries still do not know where water goes. AI uses water, but it can also help with computation and remote sensing, which need not be very accurate. On personal action, he says small acts build sensitivity in society, but they do not solve the problem if the saved water goes to big corporations.

🎙 In the talk. Accounting. “Water bankruptcy governance starts with accounting. We still see countries … fighting over water … and people still don’t know where the water goes and how it’s being used”. “Yes, AI uses water, but also it provides an opportunity … to do computation … remote sensing … they don’t need to be extremely accurate.”

Individual action (Q1). The student asks how much is “up to us” in diets and purchases, noting livestock’s water use. Madani: when he was in office, his campaign was “let’s start with ourselves”, “I didn’t mean … to blame the problem on the public”. The value of small acts is “making the society sensitive” — “a society that manages to ban plastic straws doesn’t achieve much on plastic pollution mitigation … but it achieves a lot in creating sensitivity”. The limit: “if I don’t eat steak and the water that I’m saving is going to … the pockets of big corporation then I’d better enjoy my steak.” He adds that “people who are suffering the most … dream about eating meat”, so a society that chooses to avoid meat differs from one where “parents are dreaming that their children would have a chance to eat meat sometime during the year”. On AI: the cleanest form of AI use is no use … if it doesn’t generate value, avoid it … don’t say thank you when it’s unnecessary. And a menu approach: if we give them a menu … one might choose a different diet, another shower once a week.

Valuing water (Q3). The student says the bottom line moves institutions and water is not valued. Madani: the private sector now treats water as “a credible risk” and investment analyses are growing, with pushback on data centres. But for water’s role “in the stability of the political system globally and supporting peace, I don’t think that’s there. Even the understanding is not there.” Why: “The world is running out of cheap water” — water is still cheap, food is cheap and “heavily subsidized”, and “for the world to function food should remain cheap”. He adds that rich countries “exploit” others as exporters of food, resources and labour and sell back costlier goods. A research gap: co-benefits. He cites a gender study: a “very good correlation between the state of women and the state of water quality in many countries” and says the lesson is not that investing in women fixes utilities, but that “investment in basic infrastructure can pave the way”. He also relays, flagged “don’t quote me … I don’t have enough information”, a report of sexual exploitation linked to water in an unnamed African country. Treat that as unverified hearsay in his own words.

📚 Deeper theory

  • Measuring and pricing water. Water economics has long worked on shadow prices (what a unit would fetch if markets worked), water markets (Australia, Chile, California’s trading), and cost recovery in utilities. Markets can allocate efficiently but can also concentrate rights and ignore ecosystems (the Murray-Darling and Chile’s code are common case studies). Full-cost water prices are rare because water is politically a right. The report on valuation Madani hints at is the GCEW’s attempt to price the hydrological cycle as a global commons (idea 1).
  • Risk disclosure. Investors increasingly ask firms for water-risk data (CDP water disclosure; TNFD, the Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures, 2023). This is what Madani means by the private sector seeing “a credible risk”.
  • The cheap-food bargain. Food subsidies and cheap staples are a political stabiliser in many countries (bread subsidies are a classic case, including 2011-era unrest; from memory). Water bankruptcy undermines that bargain through crop failures, which links the Colorado or Indus to food prices. The “hidden stabiliser” claim is this chain.
  • Behavioural change vs structural change. Both sides of Madani’s answer are supported in the literature. Symbolic acts can build a norm and a constituency (Thaler, Sunstein; social tipping, idea 7). But individual actions are a small share of the total; industry and agriculture dominate (idea 4). The “personal responsibility” frame has a documented history of being used to deflect regulation (idea 7). He holds both.
  • Meat and water. Livestock products have much higher water footprints than staple crops (Mekonnen and Hoekstra, 2012; idea 2). But the footprint depends on which water: grazing on rain-fed pasture uses green water that has few alternative uses, whereas irrigated feed in a depleted aquifer uses blue water that is scarce. So “eat less meat to save water” is context-dependent (from memory).
  • AI and water in numbers. Estimates vary by method and grid mix (Li et al., 2023; UNU-INWEH, 2026). “Say thank you to the chatbot” has been discussed in public after a 2025 remark by an AI executive about the cost of polite messages (from memory). The per-query water footprint is small; the aggregate is large. This is another instance of the “small acts vs structural” tension.
  • Satellites and the accounting gap. Remote-sensing evapotranspiration products and GRACE gravity data are what make “good enough” accounting possible in places with no meters. A caution: the rights to water in law are usually withdrawal rights, while the physical limit is consumption. Accounting standards must specify which (Perry, 2007; from memory).
  • Gender and water. Research documents that women and girls carry much of the burden of water collection and that sanitation shapes school attendance and safety. Correlation between water quality and indicators of women’s status can run through general state capacity, income and governance; Madani explicitly rejects the causal reading.

📚 Roots: AI, data centres and the new demand

The problem. The talk uses AI in three ways: as a new water user, as a measurement tool, and as a trigger for a reallocation fight. Each has a literature.

  1. Water use of AI. Li, Yang, Islam and Ren, “Making AI Less Thirsty” (2023) estimated the on-site and off-site water footprint of training and serving large models. The big idea: direct cooling water is only part; electricity generation uses more water, and chip manufacturing uses ultrapure water. Madani says exactly this: “much less talk about the water that goes into the energy that feeds the data centre … or the semiconductors … or critical minerals extraction”.
  2. UNU-INWEH’s own AI report (June 2026). Projected 9.3 trillion litres of data-centre water use by 2030 and recommended that governments plan data centres together with power, water and land, and require reporting (Smart Water Magazine). Madani names this report in Q1.
  3. Jevons for AI. When models get cheaper per token, total use may rise. This is the same rebound logic in idea 3 applied to compute. (It was widely invoked after efficient models appeared in 2025; my link, not his.)
  4. AI as a measuring instrument. Remote sensing (Landsat, Sentinel, ET products), satellite gravity (GRACE and GRACE-FO), and machine learning make it possible to estimate use where there are no meters. Madani: estimates “don’t need to be extremely accurate” but give “a better sense of how water is being used”. This echoes the approach of projects like OpenET in the western US†.
  5. Reallocation to data centres: the justice test. Local opposition to data centres in water-short regions is an active controversy in the north. Madani’s test (does the local farmer gain?) is a distributional test, not an efficiency test.

Where others push back

  • “Start with ourselves” can distract. (idea 7: crying Indian, carbon footprint.) Madani partly agrees: it is inadequate but part of the portfolio.
  • Prices are not enough. Raising the price of water for the poor can harm them; block tariffs and lifeline rates exist for this reason. Valuation is not the same as charging.
  • Estimates of AI’s water use are contested. Industry and some researchers argue the numbers overstate impacts or fail to count avoided uses. Madani’s guidance (“avoid it when it doesn’t create value”) is cautious but unspecific.

What he leaves out. A concrete valuation method (who values, in what units, with what discount rate). Also the question of whether pricing a thing that people hold as a right changes how people treat it.

Check yourself

  1. Why does Madani say individual actions are “inadequate but part of the portfolio”?
  2. According to him, why is water not yet valued as a stabiliser of peace and politics?
  3. Which parts of “AI uses water” does he add that people often miss?

7. Diplomacy, narrative and realism (Q4 and Q5)

In short. Madani used game theory and knowledge of Iranian society to design a waste campaign that cost nothing and spread on its own. He is realistic about diplomacy, since international law and institutions fail even in wars. His advice is not to lose hope, and to use small steps and narrative building. Conflict resolution means reaching a common narrative.

🎙 In the talk. Q4 asks how water dialogue could help peace; the questioner cites his waste campaign as a “leverage point”. Madani says his game-theory knowledge and his knowledge of Iranian society let him design a campaign and challenge that “cost us zero dollars”, became “so organic”, and drew people he was not connected to. He collected trash in the north of the country, recorded a video (“today I did this for waste, what do you do for waste?”), and challenged people to submit local, “sometimes funny” inventions, each person “calling four other people”. It “became a fashionable thing” to clean up instead of dating, and the long supply chain offered many points to intervene. But he is realistic about diplomacy: “I’m from a country that is in a big war and the international law is not able to stop it … the intergovernmental institutions are not able to stop it … the countries are involved in a lot of hypocrisy”. “The skill is not to lose hope. Be able to navigate within this complex world that is very different from what we theoretically teach people”. His proposal: “small steps and story changes and narrative building” because diplomacy is all about speaking and narratives … conflict resolution is coming to a common narrative. At the federal parliament in Canada, the conservatives “fell in love with me” when he said carbon policy made rural people “feel marginalized” and “farmers are actually the saviors of the planet … the rural communities who control 70% of the water”. Change starts “with our own circles”: “academia thinks differently, climate advocacy thinks differently, our media is biased towards certain narratives”.

Q5 asks if there are benefits for rich countries beyond solidarity, and whether any case shows one country helping another succeed. Madani’s answers:

  • “That’s actually diplomacy”: “no country, no party is your forever enemy or forever friend”, so the game is to keep “enough leverage”. Canada’s current relationship with the US is the example.
  • “The world is full of hypocrisy”, but we must also promote ethics … human rights.
  • On poverty and conservation: if my children are starving and you come to me and say don’t hunt because of the next generations, I might shoot you … that’s why poaching is happening … because people are poor.
  • On donors: “if people have no jobs, they’re going to ask you, why are you donating money to the UN?“.
  • On cases: “many countries are doing better than before through the help”, but “problems of natural resources and humans will be there forever”. “There is no country in the world that has no water problem … no prescription that you can borrow from one location and implement elsewhere”.
  • On definitions: in the bankruptcy concept “we don’t want to name a nation that is bankrupt … societies must define these boundaries or thresholds for irreversibility and insolvency … your risk tolerance … your valuation of your resources can be completely different”.

Hickey closes by noting that “the systems are kind of the way they are for a reason … they’re quite resilient, and so intervening in these resilient systems is not just a straight line”.

📚 Deeper theory

  • Water diplomacy as practice. Treaty-making is slow; informal channels (data sharing, joint commissions, scientists’ networks) often carry cooperation while states disagree. Wolf and others (idea 5) point to cases (the Indus Commission for decades; Mekong Committee; Jordan River talks) where technical bodies survived wars. The failures (Indus in 2025–26) show limits.
  • Realism vs liberal institutionalism. Madani speaks like a realist (states pursue interests; hypocrisy; leverage) who still defends normative aims. In IR theory these are classic poles (Morgenthau and Waltz vs Keohane). His position is a pragmatic synthesis: use interest to deliver values (national interest ↔ global interest).
  • Maslow and the “bandwidth” argument. People in poverty or war “don’t have the bandwidth” for the future. Research on scarcity (Mullainathan and Shafir, Scarcity, 2013) supports the idea that poverty taxes cognitive capacity. Conservation research on poaching and livelihoods likewise finds that poverty alleviation and enforcement work together (from memory).
  • Reciprocity and conditionality in aid. Q5’s first question echoes the old “aid effectiveness” debate (Paris Declaration 2005; Dambisa Moyo, Jeffrey Sachs, William Easterly on aid). Madani’s answer is not to rely on altruism: build on mutual interest plus ethics.
  • Context-specific thresholds: Ostrom again. Ostrom’s design principles (idea 1) say rules should fit local conditions. Madani’s “societies must define these boundaries” is the same idea applied to risk tolerance, and also protects the concept from being used as an outside verdict on countries.
  • Campaign design. The “no cost, organic, localised” campaign shows features of viral challenges (the 2014 ice-bucket challenge is a famous example; from memory): low cost to join, public visibility, a nomination chain, and a built-in local choice that makes participants co-creators. Evidence of lasting behaviour change from such challenges is limited (from memory).
  • Water and the narrative of the “enemy”. Water talk can lower stakes (shared technical problems) or raise them (existential). Which one happens depends on framing. His claim that “water has the power to deliver multiple goals that satisfy not only this party but also that party” is a positive-sum frame (Fisher and Ury, Getting to Yes, 1981: expand the pie, focus on interests not positions).

📚 Roots: Game theory, narrative and behaviour change

The problem. Madani credits his own training in game theory. How do you move people when incentives and institutions are slow?

  1. Game theory basics. John Nash’s equilibrium (1950): no player gains by changing strategy alone. A prisoner’s dilemma is a game where mutual cooperation is best but each defects. Madani published widely on game theory in water resources (e.g. Journal of Hydrology, 2010, “Game theory and water resources”)†. Ostrom’s field work shows how repeated interaction and monitoring change the payoff.
  2. Schelling and focal points (Thomas Schelling, The Strategy of Conflict, 1960). In coordination problems people converge on a shared point that “stands out”. A viral challenge can create one: Madani’s trash campaign, where each person “was calling four other people”, “cost us zero dollars”, and made cleaning “a fashionable thing”.
  3. Nudges and small steps (Thaler and Sunstein, 2008). Defaults and social proof shift behaviour more cheaply than lectures. His claim about plastic-straw bans: they “achieve little on plastic pollution” but a lot in creating sensitivity.
  4. Social tipping points (Otto et al., PNAS, 2020). When a small share of a population adopts a norm, the rest can follow quickly. The literature suggests tipping can be engineered, but results vary.
  5. The critique of individual responsibility. Two well-documented examples. The 1971 “Crying Indian” advertisement by Keep America Beautiful shifted plastic waste onto consumers. BP’s 2004 “carbon footprint” campaign (run by Ogilvy and Mather) popularised the personal-footprint frame. Critics (Supran and Oreskes and others) say such frames divert attention from producers and policy†. Madani’s reply to Q1 has the same logic: “if I don’t eat steak and the water I save goes into the pockets of a big corporation, then I’d better enjoy my steak”.
  6. The attitude–behaviour gap (Kollmuss and Agyeman, 2002). People who care often do not act, because structures and costs get in the way. Madani’s addition: for the poorest, eating meat is an aspiration, not a choice to give up.
  7. Narrative policy. Policy change comes through stories with heroes, villains and a plot (Roe, Stone, Jones and McBeth). Madani’s repeated refrain: “story changes and narrative building can play a role”; we think differently in academia and in climate advocacy … one narrative that explains all this will not work.

Where others push back

  • “Narrative is not enough.” For critics, Madani’s story-first stance can look like soft power where hard conflict calls for enforcement: courts (the Indus arbitration), sanctions, or compensation.
  • Realism can license inaction. “No country is perfect” and “no prescription transfers” may be used to avoid learning from cases. The literature on policy transfer says principles and mechanisms transfer even when blueprints do not.
  • Hypocrisy argument. It can be used to dismiss international norms (“everyone does it”). He explicitly rejects that (ethics “must also exist”), but the tone is worth noticing.
  • Individual-led campaigns and class. A zero-cost viral clean-up engages the connected and the young. It may not reach those most exposed.

What he leaves out. Water-specific diplomacy cases with outcomes, which is what Q5’s second question asked for. He answers at the level of principles. For examples of success, see the Wolf database, Indus (history), Rhine, Senegal River, Columbia River (from memory; not covered in the talk).

Check yourself

  1. What are the three design features of his campaign that kept its cost at zero?
  2. Why does he refuse to name a “bankrupt” nation?
  3. How does his answer to Q5 combine realism with ethics?

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